This evening I attended a packed event organised by Marc Coleman of the National Forum with the following speakers presenting: Declan Ganley, Brian Hayes, Eamon O Cuiv and Michael McDowell.
Guess who said what:
The effect of the Compact is to give the Oireachtas powers to legislate for the tougher fiscal rules which we have already signed up for (in the Maastricht Treaty) and those in the pipeline (the Six Pack)
Referendums give answers to questions that were not asked
A No vote will put Ireland in an even weaker position and a place of risky investment
Quicker austerity will result – a fatal toxic shock – if the referendum is not passed
The Treaty is not necessary at all as the Six Pack contains the details
The Keynesian option is dead with German orthodoxy the rule
A strategic view of Ireland’s relationship with Europe is needed but glib demands about a move to full political integration is not achievable; the construct of a United States of Europe is not in the interests of small member states: Ireland does not want to become a canton of this State
But we need to know about the end game (are we moving to a federal Europe) and debate the nature of federalism as this will provide a context for our decision on which way to vote.
Europe must remain largely intergovernmental as this suits our strategic interests: a view shared by our nearest neighbour
Euro realism is where the debate should be going
The small print consequences need to be spelt out as they are more important than the big EU picture; the referendum is also about the Stability Pact Treaty and European Stabilisation Fund Treaty
The referendum is not about membership of the EU or the eurozone
The Treaty is an impossible straight jacket, for example the constitutional requirement to reduce the GDP ratio every year will cripple the economy
The following issues need to be addressed to Ireland’s satisfaction before the Treaty is ratified: the regulation of the banks at EU level, the right of initiative remaining with the Commission and not the Franco-German alliance, an employment and growth strategy, a corporation tax guarantee, the ECB be reformed to allow it to lend to sovereigns, European banks that lent to Ireland should accept their share of the cost.
The Government and the Fiscal Council should produce a ten-year budget forecast based on the Treaty discipline so that the electorate can see what they are voting for
Public sector pay rose 20% in Germany in past decade and by 100% in Ireland
FG argued for a balanced budget pre-election and that domestic law should so legislate
The European ship is heading towards an iceberg; it is stifling innovation and competition
The Treaty is designed to placate the readers of Bilt
The Germans should be told we bailed out their German
If we vote No there will be another vote
No realm ever survived the collapse of its coin
We need to get the country to a better place
We have no right to hand a 120% debt/ GDP ratio to our children; the bankers should bear their responsibilities
‘No’ means ‘maybe’ until there is clarity about a restructuring of Ireland’s bank debt
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A few reflections
The panel of speakers all talked about the consequences of a vote on the Treaty but not one explained all it’s core provisions
Voting on 31st May is totally daft given the mood of the nation; we should be asked to vote once the Treaty had been approved by the majority of the eurozone countries
The Fiscal Council should provide a series of scenarios that explain the practical effects of the fiscal disciplines enshrined in the Treaties
Efforts to get a debate going on a Federal Europe is a complete diversion that will, given its nature, confuse the voters and as a consequence drive more to the No camp
Thankfully religion, conscription, neutrality, abortion etc. are unlikely to have an impact on the debate
The Compact is something we should do anyway BUT AND PROVIDED we get a long term solution to our sovereign (bank related) debt